When discussing ageing today we usually concentrate on issues about fragility and passivity. Old age is only about sickness and loss and of course this means a financial burden especially in societie's with a welfare-model. At this point of time we want to talk about older people as people that should be taken care of although we also use a rhetoric exclaiming activity as long as we live. This activity discourse is a good path towards empowering and choice but we still have a long way to go. If we see elderly as consumers this brings more action and another voice to elderly. I am sorry to say, but I think that we have to bring consumption into the context of services to elderly to finally give a real voice to them. Other discourses are so easily passivating and although you talk about activating you use a different voice when addressing elderly.